When Allyship Costs You Whiteness & A Deep Dive Into Black Film

Bruce Anthony: [00:00:00] White supremacy and black cinema. We gonna get into it. Let’s get it.

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Bruce Anthony: [00:00:45] I’m here with my SISs Jay, Andrea. We gonna be dilly daddying a little bit. Then we’re gonna be talking about white supremacy, and then we’re gonna be talking about the top 10 black movies. But that’s enough of the intro. Let’s get to the show.

Bruce Anthony: [00:01:06] What up sis?

Jay Aundrea: [00:01:07] What up brother?

Bruce Anthony: [00:01:08] I can’t call it. I can’t call it. I did something this weekend

Jay Aundrea: [00:01:14] Oh boy.

Bruce Anthony: [00:01:15] and, well, it wasn’t anything too crazy, but I watched the, uh,

[00:01:25] last what supposedly was billed as the last Denzel Washington Spike Lee movie.

Jay Aundrea: [00:01:28] Okay.

Bruce Anthony: [00:01:29] Highest to the lowest. Have you watched it?

Jay Aundrea: [00:01:33] Is that the one where the, no, I don’t think, is that the one where son is kidnapped?

Bruce Anthony: [00:01:43] Yes.

Jay Aundrea: [00:01:43] Yes, I have seen that, yes.

Bruce Anthony: [00:01:45] Okay. What did you think about the movie? Yeah, that, okay. Ladies and gentlemen, if y’all not watching the video, my sister made a face. There’s like, yeah.

Jay Aundrea: [00:01:57] Yeah.

[00:02:00] I honestly don’t think I finished it.

Bruce Anthony: [00:02:01] and, and I don’t blame you.

[00:02:05] I finished it because I’m not going to not watch a Denzel movie all the way through

[00:02:10] because no matter what, I’m waiting for those Denzel scenes, and he did give them to me.

[00:02:15] He gave me those Denzel scenes.

Jay Aundrea: [00:02:15] Yeah.

Bruce Anthony: [00:02:15] However, typically, a Spike Lee joint has a message, an overarching theme throughout the entire movie, and then you’re supposed to learn something. There’s the reason why I love Spike Lee’s movies, the older

Jay Aundrea: [00:02:31] Yes. Yeah,

Bruce Anthony: [00:02:32] There was, I don’t, I don’t know the story in this one. Yeah, his son is kidnapped, but it’s like.

[00:02:45] Not really a good kidnapping and,

[00:02:50] and, and, it seems like sophisticated, uh, what he was certificate, what the kidnapper is asking for. But the person that’s the kidnapper wasn’t that sophisticated and they figured it out before the cops did. And I’m just like, what the hell? At the end of the movie I was like, what the

Bruce Anthony: [00:03:05] hell did I just watch for two hours?

Jay Aundrea: [00:03:07] right. And I feel like. There was a lot put into like, him being this music mogul, and there were, it ended up being like very little payoff regarding that. Like,

Bruce Anthony: [00:03:29] Very,

very little payoff.

Jay Aundrea: [00:03:31] it felt like they put a lot into that in the beginning of the movie. Again, I didn’t finish it because I was like, okay. Because it isn’t, it wasn’t his son, it was, it, it ended up being Jeffrey Wright’s son

Bruce Anthony: [00:03:48] Mm-hmm.

Jay Aundrea: [00:03:49] that was taken, and I was like, oh, I see where this is going.

[00:03:55] Like, he’s probably not gonna put up the money for this, you know, ‘cause why would he, you know, like,

Bruce Anthony: [00:04:02] Because that’s his, that’s his, it was his godson. I mean, it wasn’t his son, but it was his godson. I’m sorry. If my goddaughter was kidnapped, I’m gonna find the money.

Jay Aundrea: [00:04:09] Oh yeah,

Bruce Anthony: [00:04:10] no money, but if I, if she was kidnapped, I’m gonna find the money.

Jay Aundrea: [00:04:14] Right.

Bruce Anthony: [00:04:15] So I,

Jay Aundrea: [00:04:16] yeah, and I was just like, uh, all right.

Bruce Anthony: [00:04:19] ladies and gentlemen, I, I’m not go watch it for yourself, but I had an interesting conversation with a friend of mine earlier

Bruce Anthony: [00:04:24] today and they were just like, you surprised a Spike Lee movie wasn’t good? And I was like, hold up. Spike Lee is a. Film Genius.

Jay Aundrea: [00:04:33] Yeah. Like, wait a minute.

Bruce Anthony: [00:04:35] they were like, yeah, old Spike Lee.

[00:04:40] But when was the last time he’s had a really good movie? And I had to think about it. And then it came to me, black Klansman. ‘cause that’s the reason why he was upset that the Green Book won over Black Klansman. And he had a, he had a, you know, a tipper tantrum. And I still haven’t seen the Green Book, but I can understand why that will win.

’ cause that ain’t nothing but a driving Miss Dady in reverse.

Jay Aundrea: [00:04:58] Right. Nobody wants to see black empowerment. They wanna see black suffering, so that’s why that.

Bruce Anthony: [00:05:04] Okay.

Jay Aundrea: [00:05:05] I mean,

Bruce Anthony: [00:05:06] that’s one way to attack that. We gonna get into white supremacy in the second s uh, the second segment. But outside of that, it has been a little mini since Spike had A-A-A-A-A slammer. My man was like, Hey, did you see Chirac? I was like, no, I actually haven’t seen it. He was like, ain’t no reason for you two.

Jay Aundrea: [00:05:25] Yeah.

Bruce Anthony: [00:05:27] Ugh. Yeah.

Jay Aundrea: [00:05:29] mean, the last like commercial success I think was inside Man, and that was 2006. And then he really just did a, like a handful of film sporadically over the years. So

Bruce Anthony: [00:05:44] But 2006 was 20 years ago that that was the point that my friend was making. And it was like, yeah, like I don’t know why you would expect a good movie.

Jay Aundrea: [00:05:53] well, the thing is like, I think he. Got to a point in his career at that point where it’s like, okay, I can make the movies I wanna make.

Well, he’s always made the movies he wants to

[00:06:05] make, but like in the time he wants to make them,

Bruce Anthony: [00:06:07] Hmm.

Jay Aundrea: [00:06:08] Like he doesn’t have to hustle as hard as he is did between 86 and and 2000, right. Where he

[00:06:20] is like coming out with a movie a year. So I mean, I can’t really say, ‘cause I didn’t see Miracle at St. Ana. I didn’t see Red Hook Summer.

[00:06:30] I didn’t see Old Boy. I didn’t see the Sweet Blood of Jesus. I didn’t see Chirac,

[00:06:35] I didn’t see Black Klansmen. I didn’t see the five Bloods.

Bruce Anthony: [00:06:37] I didn’t. Okay. Blacks Klansman was the on Black Klansman, not Blacks. Klansman, black Klansman was the only one of those movies that I actually saw. But that goes to my friend’s larger point. It used to be a time where Spike Lee joint, we were running to the movie theater

Jay Aundrea: [00:06:53] Right.

Bruce Anthony: [00:06:54] to go see it.

[00:07:00] And I can’t remember the last time I ran to the movie theater to go see a Spike Lee joint.

Jay Aundrea: [00:07:02] Inside, man.

Bruce Anthony: [00:07:03] I didn’t run to the movie theater. I waited for that to come out on DVD.

Jay Aundrea: [00:07:06] Well, it was good.

Bruce Anthony: [00:07:07] It was good. And that was the last good Denzel Spike Lee movie. But their, but their start was Mo Better Blues and then Malcolm X, so it’s, it’s only downhill from that ‘cause you can’t top

Jay Aundrea: [00:07:21] Pretty

Bruce Anthony: [00:07:22] Malcolm X

Jay Aundrea: [00:07:23] Yeah. Yeah, Mo better, I mean, yeah. Malcolm X, did he get the Oscar for that? Oh, he got an Oscar nom.

Bruce Anthony: [00:07:33] Yeah, he got a Oscar. Him and Denzel both got an Oscar. Nah, bane win it.

Jay Aundrea: [00:07:37] Yeah, yeah, yeah, that’s

[00:07:40] right. They were both nominated best actor. Actually he was not nominated for screenplay or director for, for Malcolm X, it

[00:07:50] was best actor and best costume design. Those were the only two, uh, nominations

[00:07:55] for

Bruce Anthony: [00:07:55] sounds about right. That sounds about right. But I finish the movie. Finish the movie it, because there’s a great. Musical performance at the end. And I found my new crush. You know, I got to have at least 17 celebrity crushes revolving in my brain at one time, and I found a new one. Uh, and, and she performs at the end.

So

Jay Aundrea: [00:08:19] Is that the one who performed like part of the, like she was in the lobby of his

Bruce Anthony: [00:08:25] nope,

not her, not her. Somebody else. Yeah.

[00:08:30] Uh, speaking of awards, Tiana Taylor won a Golden Globe Award for best performance by a female actor in a supporting role in the ham picture for one battle after another. I have not seen that movie.

Jay Aundrea: [00:08:45] Yeah,

[00:08:50] I haven’t seen it either, but I love Tiana Taylor. I love everybody that’s in that movie, so I’m very excited

Bruce Anthony: [00:08:51] You love Tiana Taylor as a person or an actress.

Jay Aundrea: [00:08:54] both

as a, as a singer, first

[00:09:00] as a recording artist first,

Bruce Anthony: [00:09:01] Yes.

Jay Aundrea: [00:09:02] As an actress, I don’t really know. I don’t know her as a person, so I can’t really say.

Bruce Anthony: [00:09:07] and through interviews and she seemed

[00:09:10] like, you know, yeah, she seemed cool.

Jay Aundrea: [00:09:12] she Like a typical New York woman, just cool and, but with a mouth.

Bruce Anthony: [00:09:19] I had, I had an epiphany

[00:09:25] while watching. I didn’t watch the Golden Globes. I was watching the highlights. She reminds me of what Eartha kit was in Eartha Kit’s heyday.

[00:09:35] She even kinda looks like a young Eartha kit. And then I was talking to a friend of mine earlier today,

[00:09:40] and of course, yes, she looks like a cat

Jay Aundrea: [00:09:42] Her? Yes. So she looks like a cat. And the thing is, uh, who is her? Uh, something Pierre. Oh God, this guy is escaping me. Who? Her boyfriend is?

Bruce Anthony: [00:09:57] Well her ex-husband was a man. Schumper,

Jay Aundrea: [00:09:59] no, no, her Aaron. Aaron Pierre.

[00:10:05] Uh, so yeah, the both of them, if you see them together, they look like two very expensive cats. Because they both look, they both look like cat. Aaron Pierre, to me looks like a, a Puma.

Bruce Anthony: [00:10:18] Okay.

Jay Aundrea: [00:10:19] so if you look at a Puma and then look at Aaron, I can’t unsee it. But yeah, they’d look like two very expensive cats.

That’s probably where you’re getting that from.

Bruce Anthony: [00:10:28] So here’s another thing. And I put Eartha kit was beautiful. So I’m not putting Eartha Kit in that category, but I’m putting Tiana Taylor and Angel Angelina Jolie in a similar category. And this is what I mean by this and, and ladies and gentlemen, I know I just gave a whole segment about men judging women’s looks.

I’m not judging their

looks,

Jay Aundrea: [00:10:52] oh boy. Okay.

Bruce Anthony: [00:10:53] not judging their looks.

Jay Aundrea: [00:10:55] Okay.

It sounds like that’s what’s about to

Bruce Anthony: [00:10:59] She’s beautiful. I, she’s an attractive woman. I’m not judging her looks.

Jay Aundrea: [00:11:04] Yes.

Bruce Anthony: [00:11:06] However, however, this sex symbol thing is a all encompassing because as pretty as she is, I don’t see her being like, to me, she is becoming the black female sex symbol, kind of like Angelina Jolie was.

[00:11:30] But like when you compared with Brad Pitt left Jennifer Anderson for Angelina Jolie. I was like, why he do that? And Jennifer Anderson is more my speed. But

Jay Aundrea: [00:11:38] Because you like,

[00:11:40] Girl next door look, and that’s not who Angelina Jolie or

Bruce Anthony: [00:11:43] that’s,

Jay Aundrea: [00:11:44] are. They have a

very unique, yeah,

[00:11:50] they have a very unique look. But Tiana Taylor, talented body tea.

Bruce Anthony: [00:11:53] She’s a sex symbol. She, it, she, to me it, it’s, I think she is the female black sex symbol. I, I can’t think. Well, my girl Kelly Rowland, but they’re different. They’re different. Right?

Jay Aundrea: [00:12:09] Yes. They’re Kelly Rowland is Girl next door.

Bruce Anthony: [00:12:13] Oh. That’s the reason why I love her so much. Yeah. I’d like them. Girl. Next doors. Hey, look, if you got glasses and you short.

And you look like the girl next door.

You got my heart because

[00:12:25] I don’t want you to be the girl next door. I want you to look like the girl next door. But no, I thought I think she can be, I think this is a great stepping stone. She’s come a long way from the Tyler Perry movie where she was yelling out by ran, and

she’s come a long way.

[00:12:45] And I love to see this little upset that, uh, my, my girl was in the movie and a lot of her scenes got cut out.

[00:12:55] Uh, yes, little, I haven’t

Bruce Anthony: [00:12:55] seen the movie yet, but just the fact that I won’t see RG Regina Hall disappoints me. But I’m happy for Tiana Taylor. I really, really am truly happy for who should be.

[00:13:10] Even though Denise’s daughter did a good job playing Catwoman, Tiana Taylor would be great as Catwoman. Why?

[00:13:15] Because she already looked, she already looked like a cat.

Jay Aundrea: [00:13:17] Yes.

Yeah.

Bruce Anthony: [00:13:18] Yeah.

Jay Aundrea: [00:13:19] Agreed.

Bruce Anthony: [00:13:20] Uh, and the dude, Pierre, he, he looked different too. I don’t know why he getting all this publicity as you know, this sex symbol, but he is going to be the green lanter, so that’s pretty cool.

You know

Jay Aundrea: [00:13:32] I mean, you know, he’s, he’s English, he is light skinned. He got light eyes. It’s not hard math

Bruce Anthony: [00:13:39] Yeah.

Jay Aundrea: [00:13:40] to see how he got put in into that position, but to me, he looks like a, a large cat,

[00:13:50] and I can’t unsee that. And so that’s, that’s where I’m at with that.

Bruce Anthony: [00:13:52] he ain’t no bla Yeah, they attractive, but he ain’t no Blair Underwood. That’s all I’m gonna say

Jay Aundrea: [00:13:57] Well, Blair Underwood, again, is a class by himself.

Like that’s, yeah, he’s in a class by himself.

Bruce Anthony: [00:14:04] Ah. Alright. Speaking on being in a class by yourself, we’re gonna talk about white people. In white supremacy and that privilege. Next.

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Bruce Anthony: [00:14:28] Okay. Jay, you sent me something interesting and, and, and I was like, huh, this is the second segment because I know you would have thoughts on it. So, you sent me a video this morning. Actually,

Jay Aundrea: [00:14:40] Mm-hmm.

Bruce Anthony: [00:14:41] in the video, this, uh, white woman is talking about basically what’s happened with Renee, Nicole Good. Who was the woman that was shot in Minneapolis by the ice, uh, agent that they are, they, the DOJ and the FBI have already said they’re not gonna investigate the shooting.

[00:15:05] So. There’s not gonna be any resolution to that under this administration. But

[00:15:10] in that video, the woman said, yes, this is what happens when white people go against white supremacy.

Bruce Anthony: [00:15:14] You lose the privilege of being white and harm can come to you in the process.

[00:15:25] This is something that’s happened. I know over throughout history here in the United States,

[00:15:30] and yes, we are talking about white supremacy and my sister’s gonna give her thoughts about this particular video, but this isn’t a segment of of us bashing white people.

[00:15:45] I’m actually going to give. White people who have sacrificed their white privilege in combat of white supremacy, their flowers in this segment, because there’s a lot of y’all out there. A lot of my friends are out there and they’re down for the cause, even sometimes stronger than me. And I’d be like, damn, you ain’t got to be like, you could take some days off.

[00:16:05] You ain’t got to do this every moment of every day. It’s gonna be overwhelming, but I’m glad that you in it and recognize it. But you said you had thoughts and I’m curious to hear what your thoughts are.

Jay Aundrea: [00:16:15] yeah. I mean, I think she’s absolutely right that, by, by truly being an ally, right, which is. Uh, putting your body on the line, right? And what I mean by that is stepping in between the oppressor and the oppressed, right? Actually filling that gap with yourself and saying, no. Right? You do lose your, the benefits of your proximity to whiteness and to white supremacy.

[00:16:55] Like you lose the benefit of your whiteness by, by putting yourself in that position and you do open yourself up to a violence that you would not normally ever like, come across, like you would normally never even, it wouldn’t even be on your radar. It’s part of the reason why the civil rights movement was so impactful is because it, it televised the revolution, right? It put. This kind of violence that black people were experiencing, particularly state sanctioned violence at the hands of police, but also domestic terror groups like the KKK, it put that violence that they were experiencing right into the homes of white people into their living room. And so a violence that you would never, ever encounter as a white person in this country, by filling up that gap between the oppressed and the oppressor, you do open yourself up to that violence by way of, uh, losing your proximity to white privilege.

[00:18:10] And I think that it’s, one, it’s what happened, uh, in Minneapolis should have never happened. And the fact that it’s not gonna be investigated. Is not surprising. And you never want people who are exercising their, she wasn’t even protesting, but people who are exercising their right to protest or to film agents or to just be in proximity of these, and I, I’m using the term agents very loosely.

[00:18:50] They, these are people, uh, uh, somebody, uh, had a sign that was very true. It’s too lazy to be soldiers, too dumb to be cops and that, so they became ice quote unquote agents and they cosplay as law enforcement. But to, to, you should never have to deal with violence by exercising your constitutional rights, especially for protest. And so. Knowing that real allyship puts you closer to blackness,

[00:19:30] right? Or otherness. That’s a hard, that’s a reason why you, you don’t find a, a lot of true allies because they know that to stand in that place is to align themselves with otherness, blackness, whatever they’re standing up for, right? And that makes them a target.

[00:19:55] You see it also with sexism, right? The idea of, oh, you’re a simp, you’re a beta male, just because you’re advocating for. Equity right between the sexes just ‘cause you’re advocating that for women to feel safe in public spaces or things like that, you, you get attacked, you lose your proximity to masculinity in the eyes of people who, benefit from a supremacist culture.

[00:20:25] So yeah, I think she’s absolutely right and it is something that is normal for us because we’re always in a, a position to encounter that kind of violence because we don’t have, uh, proximity to white supremacy. So this is par for the course for us. We assume that we’re going to be met with some sort of violence, but for, for white people to say, I wanna be an ally and I really wanna stand up and actually be. Impactful with my activism is to know that you’re giving up some of the benefits of whiteness and you are opening yourself up to violence.

Bruce Anthony: [00:21:10] Yeah. The reason why. You always say that I’m too forgiving. I give too much grace. But the reason why I give white people some grace for not either acknowledging certain things exactly when they should, or being slow to be active

[00:21:40] is because I recognize as a male, male is the only privilege. I got two privileges, I got two, I’m male and I’m pretty right.

[00:21:50] Like I got, those are the only two privileges that I

Jay Aundrea: [00:21:52] This gender, you’re educated. You’re in a certain economic class. There are several privileges that you have,

Bruce Anthony: [00:21:58] I like the, I like the two that I named, but

Jay Aundrea: [00:22:00] all right?

Bruce Anthony: [00:22:01] so I understand what it’s like to be in privilege,

the little privilege that I have.

[00:22:10] I also understand how hard it is to get that bad way up for a cause.

Jay Aundrea: [00:22:12] Yeah.

Bruce Anthony: [00:22:13] Right. Another privilege I have is time. I have time. I have time to donate that time for services for good.

[00:22:25] Do I? No. Why? Because I like the privilege of having my time. So I understand

[00:22:35] what it’s like not wanting to give up that privilege either consciously or subconsciously. Like I, I get it.

I get it.

Jay Aundrea: [00:22:42] Yeah.

Bruce Anthony: [00:22:43] But I said I was gonna give white people their flowers in this segment because yes, that person that was a ice agent, that that shot that woman, he was definitely white.

[00:22:55] And don’t get me wrong, all the domestic terror in this country, white people. From the beginning of the foundation of this country. White people, however, there have been several, several white allies to causes that combat white supremacy. So white people have a long documented history of being killed in the US while they have actively joined struggles against slavery.

[00:23:25] Jim Crow and Contemporary White Nationalism, these deaths are a through line from the abolitionist era to the Freedom Summer to Charlottesville, showing that challenging white supremacy has never been risk free for anyone who seriously opposes it. We going all the way back to Elijah Parish Lovejoy. Who was

Bruce Anthony: [00:23:45] that?

[00:23:50] Y’all are like Bruce. Who was that? He was a white Presbyterian minister and abolitionist. Editor, he was murdered in 1837 by pro-slavery mob in Alton, Illinois, while defending his anti-slavery printing press. He was shot five times as the mob tried to burn the warehouse and destroy his press. Love Joyce Killing was widely described as the, as a martyrdom for the abolitionist cause, and sparked national outrage, especially among northern anti-slavery activists.

[00:24:20] So when you give up your proximity to whiteness and white supremacy

Jay Aundrea: [00:24:25] Mm-hmm.

Bruce Anthony: [00:24:27] and you give your life to it, nine times outta 10, that spark, it’s not a. Loss of life for no reason. There have been many of black civil right leaders, black abolitionists, that have lost their lives and hasn’t done a thing to move the movement further aside, galvanize the people who are already moving in that movement,

right?

But

Jay Aundrea: [00:24:54] right.

Bruce Anthony: [00:24:55] when you’re, when a life is lost, combating some type of oppression, and it’s coming from a person that would typically be on the other side of that oppression,

[00:25:10] the other people that look like that person and believe like that person start to be like, wait a minute, hold up.

Jay Aundrea: [00:25:14] Yeah.

Bruce Anthony: [00:25:15] I understand y’all was killing them, but now you killing us.

What the hell is going on?

Jay Aundrea: [00:25:19] Yeah.

Bruce Anthony: [00:25:20] So that’s just, you know, it starts with Elijah Lovejoy. But let’s not forget about the three civil rights workers, James Cheney. Andrew Goodman and Michael er, I think that’s how you say his name,

sch Weer.

[00:25:40] Y’all will know them from a movie called Mississippi Burning, starring Gene Hackman, great movie, but the three of them were abducted and murdered by the KKK with help from the deputy sheriff and Mississippi while working on black voter registration, and then was later in investigated in a burning of a black church.

[00:26:00] Their bodies were found weeks later, and a damn the case became one of the most famous examples of white civil rights workers killed by confronting Jim Crow and white supremacy in the deep south. Do you know what happened Because of this, the president, Lyndon Bayes Johnson. Forced the FBI and the DOJ to investigate this and immediately labeled the Ku Klux Klan as a domestic terrorist, started an investigation.

[00:26:30] They were the first group that was, uh, charged, not charged, but Cointel Pro was a program to attack Dec Domestic Terrorism. It was created, they attacked the Kku Klutz Klan bankrupt, the Kku Klutz Klan, to the point where you barely see any Kku Klux Klan members. All

[00:26:50] because, couldn’t, couldn’t even, couldn’t afford the hoods.

[00:26:55] All because, not because James Cheney was killed, who was the black man, but the two young white men, Andrew Goman and Michael Schwimmer, white men were killed. And White America said, wait a minute.

[00:27:10] Hold up. This can’t be life. This can’t be real.

[00:27:15] Right? And let’s not forget about Heather Hare.

Think that’s how you say hire.

[00:27:20] Uh, she was the white paralegal and anti-racist activist who was killed in Charlottesville. Y’all remember that? That was just a few years ago. I mean, it’s a little bit more than a few years ago. It was nine years ago. But y’all remember that they will not replace us in Charlottesville and the guy running her over, right?

[00:27:40] That’s that. Along with George Floyd sparked everybody putting a little black, uh, picture on their social media posts. So that’s just a few of, there’s, there’s more, but I kind of wanted to highlight them. There’s way more, there’s so many people that helped. There were white people that helped Harriet Tubman.

[00:28:00] There were more people that marched along, uh, Martin Luther King. There were, there’s been a myriad of white people who have given up their white privilege to combat white supremacy, and that’s really the only way that you can combat a oppressive group, is for the people in that group to say, this isn’t right.

[00:28:25] Look, black people gonna always fight white supremacy always, but guess

[00:28:30] what it, we don’t have a choice. Guess what? It’s not our problem. It’s not our problem. That white people, white people feeding into white supremacy, Stephen Miller, Donald Trump, the whole Trump administration, Pete Hegseth, all these people,

Jay Aundrea: [00:28:42] All everybody, all of them.

Bruce Anthony: [00:28:45] not everybody,

but a lot of

Jay Aundrea: [00:28:47] if, I’m sorry. If you’re in

[00:28:55] the Trump administration as a choice. If you’ve made a choice to be maga, I’m going to safely assume

Bruce Anthony: [00:29:01] Yeah.

Jay Aundrea: [00:29:01] that you are a white supremacist or a white nationalist

Bruce Anthony: [00:29:04] Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Jay Aundrea: [00:29:06] period.

Bruce Anthony: [00:29:07] it, yeah.

Jay Aundrea: [00:29:08] Even if you are black, even

[00:29:15] if you are Latino. Even if you are Asian, I do not care.

Even if you are a woman, even if you are queer.

[00:29:20] If you are choosing to align yourself with people who are actively pushing white nationalism and white supremacy, I’m gonna safely assume and be, uh, 99.9999999% correct in my assumption that you too are a white nationalist and a white supremacist.

Bruce Anthony: [00:29:45] Yeah. But the larger point that we’re trying to make is this was a travesty. That what To re Renee, Nicole. Good.

Jay Aundrea: [00:29:55] in

[00:30:00] every sense of the word, the fact that it is not going to be investigated, it is just compounding the tragedy. The fact that ice agents in Minneapolis are actually telling people, and it’s on video, you guys didn’t learn from what just happened and learn what is, is usually the response they get.

[00:30:20] What did I learn that I can’t be in proximity of ice quote agents and, uh, without risking my life? That was what, that was the le that’s the lesson. Okay.

Bruce Anthony: [00:30:32] We gonna talk, we gonna talk more about what I feel about that on the after hours that we gonna film later on. So I’m gonna have to make a note that that’s gonna be one of the topics y’all need to check out the after hours. ‘cause I done re I done reprogram that and, and we getting serious. We need to talk about some stuff that, uh, yeah, I’m gonna, I’m gonna, I’m gonna give my true thoughts of, of, of ice and all that stuff, but I made this comment.

[00:31:00] On my show on Tuesday that this tragedy, unfortunately wasn’t a necessity, and it shows, it, it, it was almost like, well, as soon as you send me the video, I said, I knew, I know exactly where I want to take my thoughts on this.

[00:31:15] And my thoughts were,

Bruce Anthony: [00:31:15] yes, the only way to combat white supremacy is giving up the white privilege.

[00:31:25] Completely agree with the woman, but also giving up that white privilege means most of the time that you’ve given up your life.

[00:31:30] And unfortunately, that’s the only way that there’s ever been a civil rights progress in this country. Somebody got to lose their life. It’s somebody that looks like the majority has to lose their life because being, seeing lynchings.

[00:31:55] The Emmett Till Lynching didn’t that freaked out Black America. It didn’t really freak out. White America.

Jay Aundrea: [00:31:56] No. ‘cause if you remember lynchings, they have picnics,

they take pieces of the body. They invite children. They,

[00:32:05] they,

Bruce Anthony: [00:32:05] which

Jay Aundrea: [00:32:06] that’s not,

Bruce Anthony: [00:32:07] by the way, they all, I’m we’re talking about white supremacists here always talking about black people being animals. That’s some, an animalistic barbaric. Type of actions that the, and this wasn’t that long ago, ladies, gentlemen, everybody was like, that was so long ago. It’s my parents’ generation.

[00:32:30] It’s it, my parents were alive when that stuff was happening. It, it,

[00:32:35] Michael Jackson and the Jackson Five was a thing. Now, 60 years ago, 60 years ago, do you might be a really long time ago, but you know, somebody who is 60, 70 years old, that’s important to you, that you love and they were alive during that time.

[00:32:50] So you are going to look back when you’re 70 years old and, and maybe your seminal moment was September 11th, or maybe it, it will be, uh, the pandemic, right? And you’re gonna tell somebody about that time and they’d be like, that was so long ago. But

Jay Aundrea: [00:33:05] Right?

Bruce Anthony: [00:33:06] things were impactful. You still ex exhibit, you still like experienced them.

[00:33:15] This wasn’t that long ago that they was just doing that. Right. And that was not furthering along the civil rights movement. The, the, the beating in Birmingham, that helped a little bit. Right. But it was the killing of the white kids down in Mississippi. That’s what did it. And unfortunately, Renee, Nicole Good was assassinated

Jay Aundrea: [00:33:38] Yes.

Bruce Anthony: [00:33:39] and that woke up a lot of people and they’re like, wait a minute now she’s kind of like me.

[00:33:50] And now they’re not going to investigate. They’re the, the MAGA is digging their own shovel consistently. I always say, if they were smart, you take a little bit at a time so people don’t notice

Jay Aundrea: [00:34:01] Mm-hmm.

[00:34:05] But they’re incredibly ambitious. Uh, Trump is on a tight timeline, right? He has to make himself king in the next. You know, three years. So he, he’s on a tight timeline, so they gotta move quickly with this, uh, fascist state that they’re building.

Bruce Anthony: [00:34:24] Yeah, they’re building it. What, what are your final Thoughts? because it does, if pe if white people, and we have a lot of white fans,

[00:34:35] I know sometimes they gotta be like, it’s not my fault. And once again, we’re not talking directly to you. Right. Because if you listen to the show then you are an ally.

[00:34:45] But it does, sometimes when I do listen back to the shows, be like, damn, kind of seem like we attacking white folks and that’s not how we truly feel. I wanted to give white folks white allies, their flowers. And like I said, I got a lot of friends that I’m just like, yo, you could take Sunday off. Like, like.

[00:35:05] Go ahead and take a day off. So like, what do you wanna say to people out there that are like, I don’t know, that are just like, man, they always attacking white people. What do you wanna say to those white people and, and everybody right now, more specifically about relinquishing that privilege to further along human decency?

Jay Aundrea: [00:35:31] Yeah. First, I think when we’re talking

Bruce Anthony: [00:35:39] Yes.

Jay Aundrea: [00:35:39] injustice and white supremacy, if you get defensive, that’s some questions you need to ask yourself. That’s number one.

Bruce Anthony: [00:35:50] Mm-hmm.

Jay Aundrea: [00:35:51] Kind of goes back to that thing of them not wanting to teach slavery in schools. Well, why can’t white students align with white abolitionists?

[00:36:00] Why would they, why do they have to feel bad about slavery? They can just say, that’s something that I never wanna repeat.

Bruce Anthony: [00:36:06] Right.

Jay Aundrea: [00:36:07] Right. So if you, if you get defensive, then the, you have some questions to ask yourself, but true change comes in uncomfortable spaces.

Bruce Anthony: [00:36:19] Yeah.

Jay Aundrea: [00:36:21] True change, and this is an unfortunate fact, usually is born out of violence spaces. You do have to put your body on the line to infect, to affect change. And that’s just the reality of, of where we are as a country and as people, as human beings. That is what the masses require. They require that little bit of blood before they get invested. Because otherwise it’s just not real to them or it’s something that they can ignore, but like an impending peril, right? Of like, well, will will ice come to my city next? And if I’m just trying to get home from work and they feel like I’m following them, will I get shot? You know, like that, that is, yeah. It’s a possibility. Yes. And, and you see that and now it’s a reality. And guess what? Nobody is going to investigate your murder. But, that, that is how we affect change is by putting our bodies, our lives on the line. Because everybody wants that. I don’t even know if I’m using this euphemism right, but that pound of flesh, right. Like they need it. Before they really get invested. And that’s just the reality. And it’s sad, it’s unfortunate.

[00:38:00] It should be that you can just speak up and say, Hey, I, uh, I’m feeling marginalized by this policy. Can we revise it? Oh, sorry, we didn’t even notice that. Uh, we were marginalizing you. Let’s go to the back to the drawing board. That’s just not the way things are. So yeah, it’s dangerous. Welcome to like real America, the America that everybody’s been telling you about.

[00:38:25] That’s dangerous. Welcome to that for if you’re here for the first time. It is, it is dangerous to exist in the world without the protection of whiteness.

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Bruce Anthony: [00:38:43] Okay, Jay, let’s lighten the mood.

Jay Aundrea: [00:38:46] Mm-hmm.

Bruce Anthony: [00:38:47] Do a, I don’t know, a top 10 list. I do know what it is, a top 10 list, but I don’t think it’s gonna be a competition. Uh, but it might be, it might be a heated conversation.

Jay Aundrea: [00:38:57] Right.

Bruce Anthony: [00:38:58] This top 10 list is the top 10 movies that are black movies that everybody must see, right? That are not just exclusively just for black people, but if black people that are of a certain age adults have not seen these movies, we could strip away their black card.

Jay Aundrea: [00:39:20] and we mean old ass adults. Like I, you gotta, you gotta be 35 and up. Like

Bruce Anthony: [00:39:26] no. You

[00:39:30] could be 21. You could be 21 because you got some siblings. Some if, if they haven’t seen it. It’s been a knock on those people in their family and around them. Because there’s no reason why you should not have seen these top 10 movies. Now we got 50 to choose from and I put ‘em into different categories.

[00:39:55] So we going to pull out the best from each category and then make our top 10 lists from that. So for our people who are not black, these are great movies to watch, to learn about the true black experience.

[00:40:10] ‘cause these were black movies done by black people, black stuff done by non-black people.

Jay Aundrea: [00:40:12] Okay.

Yes.

Bruce Anthony: [00:40:14] Alright, so let’s start with the

Bruce Anthony: [00:40:15] core classics, right?

Jay Aundrea: [00:40:18] Mm-hmm.

Bruce Anthony: [00:40:19] Core classics. Malcolm X Do the Right Thing. Boys in the Hood, menace to Society. Cooley High, A Raisin in the Sun, the Curly, the mm, the curly, the Color. Purple Ease By You Daughters of the Dust. Hoop dreams. Now

Jay Aundrea: [00:40:40] Mm-hmm.

Bruce Anthony: [00:40:42] outta those movies, which are, are you automatically pulling with us?

Is definitely in the top 10.

Jay Aundrea: [00:40:49] Menace to society. And you might be

[00:40:55] a little surprised, you might be a little. surprised

Bruce Anthony: [00:40:55] Very surprised.

Jay Aundrea: [00:40:57] I would pick menace to society, especially because boys in the Hood is in there.

Bruce Anthony: [00:41:01] Yeah.

Jay Aundrea: [00:41:02] Here’s why I felt menace to society was more true to life than boys in the hood, in that you do not get a happy ending.

Bruce Anthony: [00:41:15] Mm.

Jay Aundrea: [00:41:16] Trey ends up going off to college and I mean, we expected Doughboy not to make it.

[00:41:25] And, and, and Ricky stopped to pee while they was being

chased by the

Bruce Anthony: [00:41:29] scores.

Jay Aundrea: [00:41:31] Okay. But it’s still like you kind of, there’s certain things you kind of expected. I, I, to me, it felt like the story of Kane.

Bruce Anthony: [00:41:44] Yeah. Came.

Jay Aundrea: [00:41:45] Cain administer society. The fact that, you know, first of all, hi, the situation in which he grew up, right? Not raised by his parents, he was raised by his grandparents. They were overly strict and, and very religious. And soon as he got involved in anything illegal, they kicked him out with no thought of like where he would go, right? Like that is that, but Trey went to his daddy house when he started acting up,

Bruce Anthony: [00:42:15] Mm-hmm.

Jay Aundrea: [00:42:16] you know what I’m saying? Because he had a daddy to go to.

Bruce Anthony: [00:42:19] Right, right. Okay.

Jay Aundrea: [00:42:22] The, the element that came was around him. He, he didn’t even really want better for himself. Like he really wasn’t even on that type of time. Like Trey wanted to go to college, wanted to, you know. It really felt like Kane really wasn’t even on that type of time. And that’s the kind of apathy that I think you really do find of like, this is my situation.

[00:42:55] This is where I’m in. Okay, this is the, I’m not gonna think I, outside of the scope of what I’m in,

I

Bruce Anthony: [00:43:00] Okay.

Jay Aundrea: [00:43:01] Kane’s story was much more realistic than Treys.

Bruce Anthony: [00:43:05] Okay. My, the reason why I got this dumbfounded look on my face is because from those movies, you immediately went to CE to Society before Malcolm X, before do the right thing. Before Cooley High and Coach Cheese, before the color purple, before ease by you. You went to Menace to Society. And I feel like you missed a movie that gave you everything in Menace to society, but better.

[00:43:40] And that’s Hoop Dreams, which is a documentary. It’s not sensationalized, it’s a true story of two families in the inner city of Chicago trying to make their way out.

Jay Aundrea: [00:43:54] Yeah. But again, I’m talking about the, the point is we supposed to pick films that represent the, the black experience, right?

[00:44:05] And, and part of that is the apathy that comes with certain circumstances.

[00:44:15] Like, you’re, you, you want that growth story. And I’m telling you that it’s usually not there. Like you’re in Hoop Dreams, it’s somebody trying to get out

Bruce Anthony: [00:44:24] Yes.

Jay Aundrea: [00:44:25] High, they’re trying to get out.

Like that’s not.

Bruce Anthony: [00:44:28] Okay.

I get what you’re saying.

Jay Aundrea: [00:44:29] was on. Like, you have to

understand that there’s,

Bruce Anthony: [00:44:32] destroyed the will to better your life.

Jay Aundrea: [00:44:36] and that’s also a real story that, that is present in our community.

Bruce Anthony: [00:44:43] Alright. Okay. You picked that movie. You gonna pick anyone else out of this Bunch Minutes to Society? Ladies and gentlemen, that’s the, that’s the movie my sister picked. It’s a great movie. You got me talking Bad about Miss Society and I think it’s a great movie.

Jay Aundrea: [00:44:55] Yeah.

Bruce Anthony: [00:44:56] You got any other movie you wanna pick outta there?

Jay Aundrea: [00:45:01] I’m, I’m leaning towards Daughters of the Dust. Uh, I don’t know if you’ve seen it. It’s, it’s, uh, a

[00:45:10] really great, independent film. But I wanna see what else is, what else is on the

Bruce Anthony: [00:45:20] You don’t have to pick just one movie outta this bunch ‘cause I’m picking Malcolm X. Do the right thing. And, uh, hoop Dreams

Jay Aundrea: [00:45:28] That, but I got, I got 10 films that people have to watch to understand the black experience.

Bruce Anthony: [00:45:38] Alright, those are the core classics, ladies and gentlemen.

Bruce Anthony: [00:45:40] Let’s move down to Modern Essentials. So we got Moonlight. Get out 12 Years A Slave, Selma Black Panther. Hidden Figures. Straight Outta Compton. Spider-Man into the Spider Verse. Loving Basketball and Fruitville Station. I automatically know where you’re going with this.

[00:46:05] I feel like there’s a theme in every, in every

Jay Aundrea: [00:46:05] Oh,

Bruce Anthony: [00:46:05] going pick

Jay Aundrea: [00:46:06] tell me which ones you think I’m gonna pick.

Bruce Anthony: [00:46:08] Fruitville Station.

Jay Aundrea: [00:46:10] No,

Bruce Anthony: [00:46:11] You’re

not, okay.

Jay Aundrea: [00:46:12] not, on my list. No.

Bruce Anthony: [00:46:14] Which, which one are you picking out of this bunch?

Jay Aundrea: [00:46:16] Moonlight and Hidden Figures.

Bruce Anthony: [00:46:18] Mm-hmm.

Jay Aundrea: [00:46:20] I think Moonlight is a great story of the, complications of being black and queer.

Bruce Anthony: [00:46:34] Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Jay Aundrea: [00:46:35] And I think Hidden Figures is important because you need to, I think a lot of people don’t understand how seminal black people were in the advancement of a lot of things in this country,

Bruce Anthony: [00:46:52] Mm-hmm.

Jay Aundrea: [00:46:54] something you wouldn’t think of like aerospace. That we were there crunching the numbers, we were there inventing math. Like you need to know that we are an integral part of this country, not just ‘cause of the Underground Railroad.

Bruce Anthony: [00:47:12] Right. Yeah,

Jay Aundrea: [00:47:14] Yeah.

Bruce Anthony: [00:47:15] I agree with you. I would just add Selma and, and there’s a, there’s a theme with me as well with Malcolm X and Selma history. History of the struggle will tell you why we are still fighting.

Jay Aundrea: [00:47:33] Yeah.

Bruce Anthony: [00:47:34] So that’s the only thing, uh, I think Fruitville Station has a, is a lot of parallels with menace to society

Jay Aundrea: [00:47:43] Yeah,

[00:47:45] it’s just,

Bruce Anthony: [00:47:45] a true story.

Jay Aundrea: [00:47:46] yes. So I’m probably going to not pick anything that’s like true story or historically accurate because if you, or like historical, uh, you know, drama because, you know, pick up a book like, honestly,

you don’t know about

Bruce Anthony: [00:48:08] people.

Jay Aundrea: [00:48:08] you don’t know about Malcolm X. You don’t

Bruce Anthony: [00:48:10] Well,

[00:48:15] you gotta understand, hold on. There are different type of learners, right? Like some people learn by reading. Some people learn are visual learners so people can read certain things and not register and then see it and it bring, creates a whole new thing. George Floyd is a prime example.

[00:48:30] A lot of people read that article and was like, oh, that’s sad. Then they saw it and it was like, wait a minute. So that’s the reason why I’m like, well, I picked movies and not books also because I’ve seen a lot more movies than I read books. So,

[00:48:40] alright, those are your picks. move to comedy and romance.

[00:48:45] ‘cause it ain’t all just suffering and pain.

Jay Aundrea: [00:48:45] Yes.

Bruce Anthony: [00:48:46] So in the comedy and romance we got coming to America Friday House Party, love Jones. Waiting to exhale Barbershop, the best man coming to America, brown Sugar and Harlem Nights. Out of those movies, what would make the top 10 of movies that you need to see?

Jay Aundrea: [00:49:08] Love Jones.

Bruce Anthony: [00:49:13] Okay.

Jay Aundrea: [00:49:14] Yeah,

[00:49:20] Love Jones for sure, because it was such a good representation of the complexity of Black love and just how, beautiful that it, it can be. It was just a really great, great movie. You got a, a glimpse into different kinds of black relationships, a marriage, a, a player, uh, two people that to say they’re just kicking it, but are falling in love and really trying not to a bad relationship with an ex.

[00:50:00] Uh, you love it, like you get glimpses into different kinds of relationships and just Yeah, just the, the beauty of black love, I would definitely put that on there.

Bruce Anthony: [00:50:12] Alright, I dig. Love Jones. But this is comedy and romance.

[00:50:20] And the first thing I’m gonna say is coming to America. Not coming to America.

Jay Aundrea: [00:50:24] The numeral two, so

Bruce Anthony: [00:50:25] Yeah. not the sequel.

[00:50:30] coming to America. That’s a movie that everybody black, non-black needs to see. Now does it tell you a lot about the black experience? A little bit. A little bit.

[00:50:45] No, it does a little bit. You see a lot of people in Queens, you see the black experience in Queen, the black awareness rally and all that stuff. That’s where I’m gonna be, shit. But that’s, that, that’s what I would pick. And then Brown Sugar. I don’t think brown sugar gets, its just due. ‘cause it’s also talking about black love.

Bruce Anthony: [00:51:01] It’s talking about black love, romance and, and ex and aspiring, like you said. The, um, analogy with Ministry Society. Society is beating this person down where they don’t want to see better for themselves.

[00:51:20] And brown sugar is the opposite. It is. I’m trying to get out, I have this passion. I know I can do this.

[00:51:25] I just need a chance. I just need a shot and I’m gonna do whatever I gotta do to get to that point. And so, uh, yes. And then Harlem Nights, right? I’m always gonna choose a lot from comedy.

Jay Aundrea: [00:51:36] Yeah,

Bruce Anthony: [00:51:37] ‘cause that’s, that’s just what I like. Alright.

Jay Aundrea: [00:51:40] I think, let me think. So when I just think of quintessential black comedy that you just have to see because it gives you an ins, I don’t know why. And this is probably, you’re probably like, why is this, dang, what is that movie? Hold on.

Bruce Anthony: [00:52:05] You would need to know the movie first before

Jay Aundrea: [00:52:07] I, I would, I would need to, I would, that’s, that’s incredibly important.

[00:52:15] Soul Men. I don’t know why

Bruce Anthony: [00:52:16] that does not tell you about no black experience. That’s

Jay Aundrea: [00:52:19] it doesn’t tell you about it. It just is about. So the reason why I think soul men is honestly just that one scene in Samuel Jackson’s apartment,

[00:52:35] like if you wanna know about comedic black interaction, like if you wanna, if you see us talking to each other, these two people actually care about each other.

Bruce Anthony: [00:52:47] Yeah, I.

Jay Aundrea: [00:52:48] And so when you see us talk to each other like that, IRL and you’re just like, oh my God, they must be No, no, no. You don’t understand. We actually like each other,

Bruce Anthony: [00:53:01] Love each other. Yeah.

Jay Aundrea: [00:53:02] love each other, work together for years, wanna work together again, but this is how we communicate

Bruce Anthony: [00:53:09] Mm-hmm.

Jay Aundrea: [00:53:10] this is that gives you a good glimpse into how we communicate.

[00:53:15] I don’t know why that popped in my head, but it just did

Bruce Anthony: [00:53:16] I feel like barbershop does that as well,

[00:53:20] but Okay. Okay.

Jay Aundrea: [00:53:20] kind of a. Cooney way.

Bruce Anthony: [00:53:24] Oh, mm. Yeah. Yep. You can say that. Yep. That’s, I, I, I won’t argue that. Alright,

[00:53:35] next category. Biopics or movie driven? I guess Malcolm X could have been put in here, but No, Malcolm X is too important. I had to put it in the core.

Jay Aundrea: [00:53:38] Mm-hmm.

Bruce Anthony: [00:53:39] So biopics

Jay Aundrea: [00:53:40] driven.

Bruce Anthony: [00:53:41] and, well biopics and music driven.

Jay Aundrea: [00:53:44] Oh, you said movie driven. I was just

Bruce Anthony: [00:53:47] driven. Yeah, my bad. You know, sometimes I mess up with players.

Mess up with words too. Okay, we got Ray.

[00:53:55] What’s Love got to do with it? Purple Rain, the five Heartbeats and Dream Girls. What those five movies are a must for people to go see?

Jay Aundrea: [00:54:05] It’s not on the list.

Bruce Anthony: [00:54:08] Okay, what is it then?

Jay Aundrea: [00:54:11] The Jackson’s American Dream.

Bruce Anthony: [00:54:12] Okay, so the Jackson’s American Dream is, and I didn’t put it on the list because the five heartbeats more important than the Jackson’s American dream.

Jay Aundrea: [00:54:23] I don’t think so,

[00:54:25] and I,

[00:54:30] said I wasn’t gonna do anything that’s like, based on real life or like a biopic or something

like

that.

Bruce Anthony: [00:54:31] what you said. So you’re contradicting yourself.

Jay Aundrea: [00:54:33] I am, sometimes you contradict yourself because in this instance, one music driven, I’m gonna put the whiz on there. Like you have to see that, just

[00:54:50] to see the, yes, you do, to see the breath and width of like black artistry, dance, acting, singing, uh, set design choreography, all of the things like you gotta see The Wiz. But Jackson’s American Dream, like just, if you want a story of the, what it takes to be black and successful in this country, like the true sacrifices you have to make. You gotta watch Jackson’s American dream.

Bruce Anthony: [00:55:23] I still think five heartbeats is above Jackson American Dream. I, I, I, I, I feel like, ‘cause that’s my pick from this list. It’s the five heartbeats.

Jay Aundrea: [00:55:33] to me, they didn’t sacrifice anything

Bruce Anthony: [00:55:35] What are you talking about? They were performing in the Jim Crow South. You don’t remember when they got pulled over by the cops?

Jay Aundrea: [00:55:40] Yeah, they had, they

had a couple,

Bruce Anthony: [00:55:42] when they had the album cover and it was all white people instead of them,

Jay Aundrea: [00:55:46] yeah. Those were the common occurrences in the music industry for black people at the time.

Drug

[00:55:55] abuse, things like that. No, no. It’s something about the sacrifices those kids made to be superstars. That is, to me, a much more compelling story.

Bruce Anthony: [00:56:07] Actually, both of them are in the top 10 lists. Ladies and gentlemen. I’m gonna be real honest black folks and seen both movies and we love both movies. Alright, final, final thing and then we gotta hammer out this list ‘cause we’re running short on time here. Crime. Social Realism and blaxploitation movies.

[00:56:30] We got New Jack City, set it off Juice. City of God, the Bill Street. If Bill Street could talk. Shaft, Superfly, Foxy Brown Coffee, sweet, sweet Back, badass song, black Seer, black Caesar Cleopat Jones across 110 Street. The Mack and Black eula,

Jay Aundrea: [00:56:49] Dolomite’s not on here.

Alright.

Bruce Anthony: [00:56:51] Dolomite is not on here ‘cause it’s a horrible movie.

Jay Aundrea: [00:56:54] Yeah, it’s terrible. And that’s what made,

Bruce Anthony: [00:56:58] No, that, no, I don’t wanna

Jay Aundrea: [00:57:00] uh,

Bruce Anthony: [00:57:00] that movie.

Jay Aundrea: [00:57:02] oh goodness. The, the mock, the, like the mock blacksploitation film

that came out?

Bruce Anthony: [00:57:09] It wasn’t supposed to be a joke.

Jay Aundrea: [00:57:11] it wasn’t supposed to be a joke, but that’s what made, oh God, what’s the name of that movie?

Bruce Anthony: [00:57:17] Dolomite is his name. No.

Jay Aundrea: [00:57:19] dynamite. Black

Dynamite. That’s what made Black Dynamite such a good

Bruce Anthony: [00:57:23] Yeah, it was

Jay Aundrea: [00:57:24] Um,

Bruce Anthony: [00:57:25] picking?

Jay Aundrea: [00:57:27] new Jack City

Bruce Anthony: [00:57:29] Okay.

Jay Aundrea: [00:57:30] Juice.

Bruce Anthony: [00:57:31] Mm-hmm.

Jay Aundrea: [00:57:33] I’m really torn between Superfly and the Mac, but I’m leaning towards the Mac.

Bruce Anthony: [00:57:42] Okay.

Jay Aundrea: [00:57:45] Yeah.

Bruce Anthony: [00:57:46] Alright. I I liked if Beale Street could talk. I like it. Mm. I mean, I honestly, all the movies that you named, I, I love ‘cause they’re just a part of my life and

[00:58:05] Yeah. but like Mm. I’m gonna say the Mack. Mm-hmm.

[00:58:10] I, I, so I picked the Mac over Superfly because it actually, there’s a. There’s multiple meanings in it, and it’s not solely just a exploitation movie. They actually were trying to make a point

[00:58:20] and they really weren’t as super. I mean, they tried to, but it was just, it was the height of blap exploitation.

[00:58:25] The only thing that I would add in there is set it off, I think set it off as so very, very important, uh, because it’s showing women can be bad asses too, just like in Hidden Figures, but on the other side,

[00:58:40] right? Women can be bad asses too. So those are some of the movies. Right now your list is Menace to Society, Moonlight, hidden Figures, love Jones, a Jackson’s American Dream, new Jack City Juice, and the Mac 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.

[00:59:00] your list, you could choose two more movies from, from everything. What would it be?

[00:59:05] I’m surprised you not choosing Purple Rain.

Jay Aundrea: [00:59:06] no, because, uh, let’s be so Prince. anybody who knows me, uh, knows that I used to have a Prince poster on my door, that, uh, our brother really didn’t like because it was just his head and it was gigantic and it just stared right at him and he didn’t like

it.

Bruce Anthony: [00:59:26] other brother, ‘cause I

Jay Aundrea: [00:59:27] Yeah. Yes. And, uh, prince has been my idol since I was conscious of his music.

[00:59:40] So the eighties. But let’s be honest, p Brain’s not a good movie.

[00:59:50] It’s not he’s not a good actor and it’s not a good movie. So from core classics, I know you have do the right thing on here for sure. for sure. But I actually, if I were gonna pick a Spike Lee joint, because I definitely think one needs to be on here, it would be Crooking.

Bruce Anthony: [01:00:05] knew you was gonna say Kirkland. I knew it. I specifically left it off ‘cause it don’t got no place being in no top 10 list for

Jay Aundrea: [01:00:11] It.

Bruce Anthony: [01:00:12] need to be seen. I knew you was gonna say Kirkland.

Jay Aundrea: [01:00:14] Yeah, it would be Ling I would add Daughters of the Dust.

Bruce Anthony: [01:00:19] Okay, so you, so your top 10 would be Minutes to Society Moonlight, hidden Figures. Love Jones. The Jackson Dream New Jack City Juice. The Mac Crook, and Daughters of the Dust.

Jay Aundrea: [01:00:31] Yes. I think if you watch those 10 films, it will give you a well-rounded, layered, textured complex view of blackness. Black love, black joy, black pain, the black experience in this country. That’s what I think.

Bruce Anthony: [01:00:54] Alright, my top 10 list is Malcolm X Hoop Dreams. Selma, uh, coming to America, house Party, the best man, brown Sugar, the five heartbeats, new Jack City Juice,

Jay Aundrea: [01:01:17] That’s 10.

Bruce Anthony: [01:01:18] and the Mac one A and B one A and B. You got to watch the Mac. to watch the Mac, but that was our top 10. You got, I, I, I don’t think we cross blended any.

[01:01:35] Other movies. So you got his top 10, you got Jay’s top 10 and my top 10. So there’s 20 movies for my black people out there that haven’t seen those movies. We’re gonna strip your black card if you haven’t seen those movies. I am. And you need to go see ‘em. And for non-black people, go check those out.

[01:01:50] They’re gonna give you a little bit of a black, black person’s experience in America with a little bit of humor, love, uh, crime, and anger. But Jay, on that note, what do you want to other people out there?

Jay Aundrea: [01:02:03] Yeah. Uh, watch those movies, like watch the whole list. I wish we could publish it somewhere because,

Bruce Anthony: [01:02:11] We can, I will publish it on our social media accounts.

Jay Aundrea: [01:02:15] that would be awesome because I feel like a lot of times, uh, well all the time the media portrays us one way. But when you watch films written by us, directed by us, starring us in our own voices, you get a, a better idea of who we are. Uh, and we’re, we’re beautiful.

Bruce Anthony: [01:02:36] We are black is beautiful. If y’all didn’t know, black is beautiful. And on that note, once again, our white allies, thank you. Thank you. We need your help to further the cause. But on that note, I want to thank you for listening. I want to thank you for watching, and until next time, as always, I’ll holler. I.

Woo. That was a hell of a show.

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