Exploring the complexities of African American Vernacular English (AAVE)

bruce_anthony: You open j__aundrea: Ye,

bruce_anthony: your eyes up real wide like that. That’s creepy

bruce_anthony: On today’s episode Me and my Wow

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bruce_anthony: Clip. that

j__aundrea: This taste pretty. pay pretty.

j__aundrea: made me laugh

bruce_anthony: Ah, on today’s episode Me and my sister shooting Brise. We’re talking about a a V, and we’re talking about Nazis

bruce_anthony: teaching school. But first things first,

bruce_anthony: What’s uses? So you already corrected me.

j__aundrea: Already, do you?

bruce_anthony: Already corrected me. it’s a a v. E. I don’t be knowing. it’s

j__aundrea: It’s bruce_anthony: clear.

j__aundrea: a A. E. some people say African American English. some people say African American vernacular English. It’s the

j__aundrea: same thing,

bruce_anthony: The J, J, J, J, C. What’s that?

j__aundrea: the vidojsic.

bruce_anthony: If you all don’t get that, That’s from Beverly Hills Cop Three. But what Ubstansehow you doing?

j__aundrea: I’m good. How are you?

bruce_anthony: I’m feeling better. I’m no longer sick and I got my voice back.

j__aundrea: Yeah, I mean, you still sound a little stuffy, But so do I. So that’s fine

bruce_anthony: Well, j__aundrea: now

bruce_anthony: you know what,

j__aundrea: Like siblings.

bruce_anthony: right? So the weather keeps changing right like it.

bruce_anthony: It was forty something degrees and then shot up to like sixty five for two days, then shot down to forty.

bruce_anthony: And so you’re going through this where in the morning you’re wearing like your full, puffy, triple fat goose

bruce_anthony: winter coat,

j__aundrea: You right?

bruce_anthony: and then in the afternoon you just wearing a sweat suit Because I got to walk the dog, so I’m just wearng

bruce_anthony: a sweat suit and then in the evening again it’s not the big puffy coat, but it’s still a winter coat. So you,

bruce_anthony: your body is going And down up and down

bruce_anthony: and some trees and some flowers and stuff was like, Oh, it’s time to come out. so it

bruce_anthony: lit up my elegies and so my elegies was like, Oh, I guess it’s that time of year and I’m like, No, it’s not.

bruce_anthony: It’s j__aundrea: You

bruce_anthony: not j__aundrea: know,

bruce_anthony: time yet.

j__aundrea: it’s not

bruce_anthony: It’s not time, but my

bruce_anthony: body was like. No, it’s about that time. Let me give you some elegies. Just I’m just happy to

j__aundrea: Let bruce_anthony: turn

j__aundrea: me bruce_anthony: into

j__aundrea: just bruce_anthony: a

j__aundrea: give. bruce_anthony: sign is affection.

j__aundrea: Let me just give you some ology.

bruce_anthony: Yeah, let me just make you alert to everything in the world

j__aundrea: Yeah, Just give me some ology.

bruce_anthony: So I know you’re happy about. you know the Super bowl. I know you’re really excited about

j__aundrea: Oh, bruce_anthony: that.

j__aundrea: listen Boy, oh boy, am I excited about that. I might get two rings tattooed

bruce_anthony: Uh, j__aundrea: for the. I already had a dream. We won

bruce_anthony: I really don’t

j__aundrea: Philadelphia bruce_anthony: think you should do that.

j__aundrea: Eagles. By the way, Uh, fly Eagles, fly. Um, If you like, I could sing our fight song.

bruce_anthony: No, thank you.

j__aundrea: Okay, Well, I

bruce_anthony: You j__aundrea: got.

bruce_anthony: know. j__aundrea: I have

j__aundrea: it on deck.

bruce_anthony: okay. just don’t do that.

bruce_anthony: Yeah, thank

j__aundrea: it’s bruce_anthony: you

j__aundrea: available too.

bruce_anthony: now I’m good.

j__aundrea: You to the audience. Um, yeah, I’m very excited. very excited to watch the Super Ball tonight.

bruce_anthony: It’s still I know. in the finished product it’s still coming back in my head set. there’s still an echo.

bruce_anthony: I don’t know why.

j__aundrea: That’s fine.

bruce_anthony: Yeah, I’ll fix it post. hopefully, um, I’m just happy black history month. We got to the first time in super

bruce_anthony: bold history. The starting quarter backs are both black

j__aundrea: Yes, hey,

bruce_anthony: and it’s a little somethin.

j__aundrea: hey Jalen.

j__aundrea: Yeah, that’s the case. I already know. Hit’s like twenty four.

bruce_anthony: Uh, yeah, he’s a young man.

j__aundrea: Yeah, bruce_anthony: I don’t think that’s a case, though,

j__aundrea: it feels like it, and that’s enough for me.

j__aundrea: It feels like it. That’s enough. That’s enough for me.

bruce_anthony: I mean he is a handsome young man.

j__aundrea: Yeah, and

bruce_anthony: Is j__aundrea: I love his whole team is black women. his agent

j__aundrea: A torn on everybody. the whole team black women.

j__aundrea: I love it. I love it. you know, so shout out to him.

bruce_anthony: All right, so let’s let’s let’s get into this, J. J. J, J. C. Because I sent you something earlier this week.

bruce_anthony: The A V.

bruce_anthony: I sent you something earlier this week, and a lot of people don’t know about it. I just learned about it that

j__aundrea: M. bruce_anthony: good bye is actually, God be with you

j__aundrea: Yeah, bruce_anthony: and it’s been shortened.

bruce_anthony: And of course you knew that and you like well, Actually, because you love hitting

j__aundrea: I bruce_anthony: the

j__aundrea: did. I bruce_anthony: well.

j__aundrea: with a will. Actually,

bruce_anthony: you did Actually say those words, but in the and in the way you responded, it was a well, actually response.

bruce_anthony: So so you had some really interesting insight into the A v, E, j, j, j, j, C. So go ahead and break that down

bruce_anthony: for the people out there who don’t understand because you were an English major and you know all about this

bruce_anthony: stuff. I guess

bruce_anthony: I guess that’s what the people say.

j__aundrea: you know, I’m an English major while I’m in school. Once I get the degree, I’m a linguist. I’m need you to like internalize

j__aundrea: that that you are when you are a history major While you were in school. Now that you have the degree you are a historian.

j__aundrea: Nternalize. that and really, like you know, feel that in your spirit. Yeah, so you did

bruce_anthony: Okay, j__aundrea: the work. You got the degree like clay.

j__aundrea: I mean, but

j__aundrea: like my point is playing it. So you, you sent us the thing about good bye being God, be with you, And I give you

j__aundrea: another example. How dy um being I guess shorten version of how do you do It becomes Then how do then? how D,

j__aundrea: and then Given different, you know accents depending on where you are And that’s how it becomes like that, And this

j__aundrea: is a common linguistic feature not just in English but in a lot of languages, But in English. in standard American

j__aundrea: English, this is a common thing. It’s a common feature of you know, standard British English or standard Australian

j__aundrea: English. things like that. But what’s interesting is while these things are common and accepted in standard American

j__aundrea: English, they’re scene is get when we’re talking about them. in African American vernacular English, A lot of

j__aundrea: people look at a a v e as if it’s bad English. It’s not bad English. It’s a well. Some people call it a vernacular.

j__aundrea: Some people say it’s a dialect. I personally think it’s a dialect. The difference being a vernacular just deals

j__aundrea: with language and grammar. dialect deals with language grammar and your actual accent. And I think when we speak when

j__aundrea: I speak a V, which I’m not doing right now, I’m speaking standard American English because we’re on this podcast,

j__aundrea: But when I speak a V, I have a different accent when Speak it. Then when I speak standard American English. When

j__aundrea: I speak standard American English, I kind of have this mid Atlantic accent because that’s where we’re

j__aundrea: from. We’re from Maryland, Virginia, So we’re goin, have a mid Atlantic accent Um. but when I speak African American

j__aundrea: vernacular English, my accent does change, which is why I find that it’s a dialect. Um. but I mean the history

j__aundrea: of it is not. that is not that deep right when they are bringing enslaved people over from West Africa. One, their

j__aundrea: mic Ing us up because they don’t want us to be able to

bruce_anthony: Communicate with

j__aundrea: communicate bruce_anthony: each other

j__aundrea: with each other right,

j__aundrea: so they’re mixing up different tribes and different people, different accents, different languages that are being

j__aundrea: spoken. So they’re mixing us up number one and then number two. A lot of times we’re working alongside indentured

j__aundrea: servants from France from Ireland. Right who are speaking a different diet Act of English? Yeah, they’re still

j__aundrea: speaking English in Ireland, but it’s very different from. Great Britain is very different from other places, so we’re

j__aundrea: learning English alongside the enslavers and the indentured servants. So what you get out of that is not necessarily

j__aundrea: like what you find in the Coribian, which is like a creole. Um, but that’s where African American vernacular English

j__aundrea: is kind of born out of

j__aundrea: Learning English in that way, and it’s going to create different ways of saying things because you’re learning

j__aundrea: you’re pulling English from different sources.

bruce_anthony: So basically what you’re saying is is that the quote Unquote get language

bruce_anthony: that people in this country love to put on black people.

j__aundrea: You’re doing a lot of air quotes for that that whole sentence just now. For everybody who’s listening to the podcast,

j__aundrea: He only really needed to air quote, maybe one or two ords, but he air quoted the entakand.

j__aundrea: I really want to start getting on people who over use air quotes like you don’t have to do the whole sentence in

j__aundrea: air quotes.

bruce_anthony: You know, I’ll be going back and looking

j__aundrea: Yeah, bruce_anthony: at the videos. I talked so much with my hands

bruce_anthony: like my hands. My hands don’t be still that just. but anyway, Back to my point, So the ghetto language that that

bruce_anthony: a lot of white Americans try to put on black people, Guess what you need to put it on yourselves. Because

bruce_anthony: the majority of our language that we speak, even when we decide to speak proper American English is still This

bruce_anthony: bastardized version of British English is

j__aundrea: No, bruce_anthony: basicaly what you’re saying.

j__aundrea: no, it’s not bastardized because when you say that it’s bastardized you’re kind of giving it this. It’s falling

j__aundrea: into that implication of it being bad English. it’s not. It’s just not standard American English. It’s a different

j__aundrea: vernacular. It is a

bruce_anthony: You j__aundrea: diffenestandard

bruce_anthony: mean standard British English. When

j__aundrea: American bruce_anthony: I’m talking.

bruce_anthony: No, I’m not talking about what they used to call it Ebonics. I’m not talking about that. I’m talking about the

bruce_anthony: English that we speak here in America,

j__aundrea: M. bruce_anthony: compared to British English.

bruce_anthony: You’re saying that that’s not bascedaze is just American English.

j__aundrea: It’s just American English. it’s just standard American English. The same way it’s standard Australian English or standard

j__aundrea: Irish, There is typically the standard English. you’re taught in schools wherever you are a right. And that’s

j__aundrea: the standard American English that we learned when we have language arts an elementary school. But then there’s

j__aundrea: also your regional dialect, your regional vernacular, African American vernacular. These are not bastardize versions

j__aundrea: of them. They’re not bad Versions or incorrect versions. They’re just different. They’re just not.

j__aundrea: It’s just not standard American English. Standard American English is not the only accepted English in the world.

j__aundrea: Like that Makes

j__aundrea: no sense. It’s not even the original English. It’s only a couple of hundred years old. Is the? this place is not

j__aundrea: that old for Americans to really have this idea in their heaheadcompared

j__aundrea: to other countries. Like this place is not that old, seventeen seventy six like it’s Oh, like we’re very young

j__aundrea: in terms of other nations, But we have this idea in our head that what we do is correct. We don’t have an accent.

j__aundrea: Everybody else does now,

j__aundrea: jack ass there. there’s a handful of accents just on the East coast, Just the East coast alone. Somebody from New

j__aundrea: York sounds completely different from somebody in North Carolina, which sounds completely different from somebody

j__aundrea: in Florida. So that alone, Let you know There’s no. I don’t even really know what the standard American is what

j__aundrea: you’re taught in school. I guess, but there isn’t any even a standard American accent, but no, a v, E, I say this

j__aundrea: all the time. It is a true dialect with hard and fast grammatical rules. It is. there are rules to the way that

j__aundrea: we speak, which is why when we hear other people who think of a v, s just slang Right and we

j__aundrea: hear them speak it, We like you, don’t even make sense right now, But to them all there here and is, you ain’t

j__aundrea: got to be out. and they’re thinking that there aren’t actual rules to the way that we speak, grammatical and tactical

j__aundrea: rules to the way we speak, And that’s why you all sound so dum when you all diminished the way

j__aundrea: we speak and act like a slang. Slang is temporary. slang is ephemeral. Slang is always changing our language is

j__aundrea: not. I mean, language is not math. It’s fluid, right.

j__aundrea: It is what we say. it is, we say. Now that it’s good bye. We don’t say God be with you any more. It’s standard.

bruce_anthony: Some. Well, you say that church

j__aundrea: Yeah, I

bruce_anthony: you j__aundrea: mean,

bruce_anthony: know j__aundrea: you know because God is good

bruce_anthony: All the time,

j__aundrea: that we know that. I mean,

bruce_anthony: right, right

j__aundrea: but we’ve accepted that Google is the verb you use when you’re talking about searching for formation on the Internet.

bruce_anthony: Or just, or just searching for information

j__aundrea: Just bruce_anthony: and

j__aundrea: search bruce_anthony: then even had

j__aundrea: information. bruce_anthony: to Yeah,

j__aundrea: We’ve accepted that that’s now a word within our lexicon. So again, like language is not math. it’s very fluid,

j__aundrea: so yeah, there is some fluidity in African American vernacular English, but it has rules like. And the thing that

j__aundrea: I love so much about a V is it’s contextual, So that’s also another part of it

bruce_anthony: Like, like the phrase You good.

j__aundrea: Right. It just depends on the con. It depends on how we’re saying it. It can’t be written and understood by everybody.

j__aundrea: You can’t write you good on a piece of paper and people be like. I don’t know. what is that. What context are

j__aundrea: you saying that Like

bruce_anthony: It can cause a problem through text message,

j__aundrea: it can’t cause a problem. Speaking a V through text message can cause a problem if you

j__aundrea: don’t understand the context on which I’m saying he’s been over there Versus he been over there like there’s no

j__aundrea: where to. You have

bruce_anthony: Uh, j__aundrea: to capitalize the bend, so that you

bruce_anthony: Or j__aundrea: know.

bruce_anthony: or or mis spelling by putting like multiple ease

j__aundrea: Yes, bruce_anthony: in there. Yeah,

j__aundrea: Yes, so that I know which type of Ben you’re talking about using the habitual B, which is a very common feature in

j__aundrea: African American venacuala, English. The habitual be like

bruce_anthony: What is that?

j__aundrea: the habitual B is when we use the word be to indicate habitual action. So instead of you can say, he be at work, or

j__aundrea: he’d be at work like it’s a different like he beat. It’s understood he’s he worked, And versus he be working. it’s

j__aundrea: understood that he be working. Is he’s habitually working, whereas

j__aundrea: he working where he. oh he working. He’s just at work right now

bruce_anthony: Sort of like he’s doing the most

bruce_anthony: as compared to he’d be doing the most

j__aundrea: Right like right now, he’s doing the most versus he’s always doing the most. And

bruce_anthony: I got you.

j__aundrea: so that’s another part of a v. E is that we also develop these speech patterns to confuse white people. We don’t

j__aundrea: necessarily want them to understand what we’re saying, and by a large it has worked. They don’t understand what we’re

j__aundrea: saying. It pisces them off. They try to use it, They try to. We tell them. That doesn’t really make sense the

j__aundrea: way you said it, because grammatically, there’s a different set of grammatical rules in a V. So grammatically

j__aundrea: what you just said doesn’t make sense. Then it makes the even more mad. And so they dismiss our language or our vernacular

j__aundrea: as something less than. But the point is we don’t want you all to be knowing what we’re talking about half the

j__aundrea: time. Okay, that’s why we speak with a lot of connected species. Sometimes when you listen to us talk and just be running

j__aundrea: all together Oven. like what, Just say, you don’t need to know.

bruce_anthony: Could there be another term used instead of African American vernacular English Because we do know other races that

bruce_anthony: speak a a v E fluently,

j__aundrea: Yes, Yes, so I mean, if you grow up in a black neighborhood, but to do that is to

bruce_anthony: Or j__aundrea: a

bruce_anthony: you j__aundrea: race.

bruce_anthony: just hang out with a lot of black people,

j__aundrea: Yeah, but to do that is to erase the history of the vernacular how it came into being. To do that is to just

j__aundrea: dismiss which a lot of people would love us to do. They don’t. They would love to speak a v. E, but not have to

j__aundrea: acknowledge that it came from black people that his is a language

j__aundrea: and a vernacular that we built. We created it. we took bits and pieces of the information that we’re given and

j__aundrea: we decided these are the rules or how we’re going to speak.

bruce_anthony: So we must keep that label

bruce_anthony: for a v. just like they keep that label for English. It’s from

j__aundrea: Exactly bruce_anthony: England,

j__aundrea: yes, bruce_anthony: So okay, I get that

bruce_anthony: everybody. you all learn something Today you

j__aundrea: yeah, bruce_anthony: all learned about the A V, E, J, J, j, j, C.

j__aundrea: M. um, let me think another fun linguistic features as reduplireduplication. So that’s when you repeat a word right,

j__aundrea: so that it either M indicates the degree or severity of something specificity, or to clarify the meaning of something.

j__aundrea: so I’m like, as opposed to saying you good. Are you good good? Oh,

bruce_anthony: He j__aundrea: you

bruce_anthony: be working. He’d be working. He’d be working working

j__aundrea: Like he. Really, He really be working. or if somebody? this is actually from content creator. What’s good? English?

j__aundrea: I definitely suggest that you follow him. also a content creator named Son Michel, but he said You know you offer

j__aundrea: somebody some some dorados. No, you ain’t got no chips chips. You know that what I’m talking about for chips chips,

j__aundrea: just regla chips.

j__aundrea: I want doridos. I just want some Chips. You know what I’m saying,

bruce_anthony: Instead of saying Hey, you got some potato chips?

bruce_anthony: We say

j__aundrea: No, bruce_anthony: you got some chip chips.

j__aundrea: Yeah, you got some chip chips like. Just like some reglar chips. Some chips. you know, chip hips like that were

j__aundrea: also a zero popular language which I think other.

bruce_anthony: You know, using all these big words.

j__aundrea: I’m going to explain them,

bruce_anthony: Because look, you say these words and I’m just like All right. I don’t even understand what. That’s what you

bruce_anthony: mean By that.

j__aundrea: But bruce_anthony: In context,

j__aundrea: I said reduplification reduplication.

bruce_anthony: I j__aundrea: I

bruce_anthony: got that.

j__aundrea: keep trying to say reduplification. I don’t know.

bruce_anthony: I don’t know why either, but I got that

j__aundrea: Yes. Okay, so zero copula means that we drop is and are so

bruce_anthony: Is and are

j__aundrea: yes, Because bruce_anthony: okay.

j__aundrea: if you think about it in certain sentences water isn’t are really doing so. Instead of saying we are swimming,

j__aundrea: we Say we swimming, Because what is our really doing in that sentence That swimming? we swimming like? There is no

j__aundrea: reason to add R. It’s unnecessary so well

bruce_anthony: Didn’t we learn that there’s a reason in language arts an elementary school

j__aundrea: In standard American English, but in African American vernacular English swimming is the verb and it’s doing

j__aundrea: all the heavy lifting. And if we say we swimming well who swimming we are. What are you doing? swimming like it’s

j__aundrea: you don’t Are is really not doing anything. The only time we do not drop is Am we still use? Am, It retains a

j__aundrea: hundred percent of uses like I am going to the store. You know what I’m saying, You can’t say I’m going. No, I still

j__aundrea: said. Yeah, we’re gonna use

j__aundrea: is gonna stay you

bruce_anthony: am, or the, or the

bruce_anthony: contraction of it,

j__aundrea: Yes, we don’t say I go into the store. Nobody

bruce_anthony: The j__aundrea: said

bruce_anthony: contraction of it.

j__aundrea: Yes, The contraction you don’t have to air quote

bruce_anthony: I know,

j__aundrea: is contract. bruce_anthony: for those for those who are watching the video,

j__aundrea: Yeah, bruce_anthony: I just did air quote, Just to be funny,

j__aundrea: Yeah, you adding air quote. So it’s a v. E needs to start getting the respected deserves. There’s a really great

j__aundrea: content creator on Youtube. His name on Outube is Lang, focused, l, n g, focused right where, And he’s got a great

j__aundrea: video on African American vernacular English. Um that I suggest people watch. I got a lot of my information from

j__aundrea: there, But we, we built this and and it’s ours. It’s food. boo.

bruce_anthony: We built this language.

j__aundrea: Yeah, but I don’t think we’re not gate keeping it for people who respect it. There are people out here and a lot

j__aundrea: of the argument is especially on social media today that N z. their whole identity is just Um. Now, their identity

j__aundrea: is a bacatardization of a V. Right. Everything that they say, their whole way of speaking is just this really bad

j__aundrea: form of a v. E. Um, so we gate keep in that sense Because it’s like you really don’t even have respect for the

j__aundrea: way that we speak And you’re out here using it for cloud. And as if it’s slang and it’s not slang, it has real roots

j__aundrea: in America. It is a vernacular born out of American history in American life,

j__aundrea: and it deserves some damn respect and tides, kids walking around speaking a bit and then we correct them and they’re

j__aundrea: like. Whatever. It’s just slang. It’s not.

bruce_anthony: You said that, like the real Valley

j__aundrea: And bruce_anthony: Girl.

j__aundrea: you know who, Because we know who I’m talking about.

j__aundrea: There was a whole

j__aundrea: fight against with the millennial with white milennials and white genzears about who’s cool and who’s not cool and black,

j__aundrea: or just sitting back looking at like both all are just pretending to be us, but not well,

bruce_anthony: Uh, j__aundrea: So not the dumb argument.

bruce_anthony: uh. j__aundrea: And that’s my two sense on that.

bruce_anthony: All right with folks, you learn something. That’s what you come. That’s what you come to this podcast for to learn.

j__aundrea: Learn something and what? what I didn’t know and I found out through my research and I’m just upset that I didn’t

j__aundrea: know this February first is national non code switching Day is a day you do not code switch February first first day

j__aundrea: of black history, Mother, We don’t code switch,

j__aundrea: So I don’t know. I’m kind of on the fence about code switching. I, as a linguist, understand that there’s instances

j__aundrea: where you can speak formally and in formally Right, And I think in order to be understood by everyone, you should

j__aundrea: speak a standard form of English, but I don’t think that speaking a a v E should, in the eyes of other people make

j__aundrea: you look less intelligent or Less competent. I don’t think that speaking a ve should deny you access to opportunities

j__aundrea: or resources.

bruce_anthony: You know we are a long way from that.

bruce_anthony: A j__aundrea: so

bruce_anthony: long j__aundrea: there’s so

j__aundrea: having bruce_anthony: way.

j__aundrea: just one day where we don’t code switch. I see this funny, um video going around on Tik Tok, where it’s a ladies,

j__aundrea: black ladies sitting at her desk with her head down just shaking her head, And the caption is I told a meeting at

j__aundrea: work that some white people ship, And now I don’t know how to lie

j__aundrea: like You know, but there’s also this instance. there was a video of a gentleman. He made a video. I can’t remember

j__aundrea: what the context of the video is about. but he was just basically saying. I want to say it was like a female boxer

j__aundrea: or M, M. something he was talking about, and like you know, you can’t touch her, you can’t even touch her. And

j__aundrea: a white woman got in his comments and started making a bunch of videos about how he Talking about sexual assault will

j__aundrea: touch in our community is not, that’s not. You

bruce_anthony: Yeah, j__aundrea: can’t

bruce_anthony: it’s j__aundrea: touch

bruce_anthony: not j__aundrea: her. I mean, you can’t compete with her.

j__aundrea: You know what I say, That’s not. We don’t mean touch as in physical touch, but because people don’t understand, they

j__aundrea: getting into lanes that they’re not. They’re not in that line. If he was talking about that, we would said something.

j__aundrea: We bruce_anthony: Right.

j__aundrea: said something.

bruce_anthony: So should there be a class taught on a V. E

j__aundrea: I think

bruce_anthony: public schools

j__aundrea: Yes, during Black History month. If you man to do it like that,

bruce_anthony: Just during that month?

j__aundrea: If you want to do it like that. If you want to say all right, we’re going to talk about negroes for twenty eight

j__aundrea: then okay, if you want to do it that way five. but I also think you should, and a lot of teachers are doing this

j__aundrea: and this is great because we need more black teachers doing this. We need more black teachers period, but we need more

j__aundrea: black teachers doing this.

bruce_anthony: Well, my black cast wasn’t gonna be no teacher.

j__aundrea: We need more black male teachers too, but

bruce_anthony: No, no, this ain’t appealimetry.

j__aundrea: especially in elementary, especially when they’re at that impressionable age and they need to see black males and

j__aundrea: black females and positions of leadership and power. It’s very important, so especially at that elementary school

j__aundrea: age, but a lot of teachers are in. Are Incorporate are not correcting the students when they speak a a v E. they’re

j__aundrea: incorporating it into their lessons to teach about Subject, verb agreement and things like that, and

bruce_anthony: We’re not in Florida.

j__aundrea: well, definitely not in Florida, and as we are seeing, also not in Ohio, But we’re gonna talk about at.

bruce_anthony: We go talk about that later, but no, not no, No, we don’t know about Ohio. We just know

j__aundrea: We don’t bruce_anthony: a

j__aundrea: know. bruce_anthony: certain.

j__aundrea: we don’t know if out Ohio

bruce_anthony: Yeah. j__aundrea: large, but

j__aundrea: I have some suspicions. I’ll tell you that. I guess it suspicion like, But we all right Ohio. You’ve been looking

j__aundrea: a little fuss over there, but we’re gonna

bruce_anthony: We’re gonna get into

j__aundrea: see where bruce_anthony: that.

j__aundrea: it goes. but you

bruce_anthony: Yeah, j__aundrea: all

bruce_anthony: we j__aundrea: look

bruce_anthony: go j__aundrea: at us over there. Damn it

bruce_anthony: All right. Give me gonna put on my swetshrt. I feel naked without it

j__aundrea: Well, you got a cool two shirt on Man of Steel. That’s cool. I think.

j__aundrea: Oh lad. got up.

bruce_anthony: Figuring out the damn microphone and sounding this thing is pissing me off like. seriously, like I

bruce_anthony: can’t. I can’t ever just like get it right right, spissing me off like for some reason today, as we’re recording,

bruce_anthony: our sound is way up.

bruce_anthony: Well, my sound was real up, and I’m like you know this like I haven’t changed the settings. I think it’s this

bruce_anthony: software and

bruce_anthony: I think this is going to be the last month we use this day of software for real for real, because I’m starting

bruce_anthony: to get tired of it because it’s just it’s too much. whatever.

j__aundrea: Yeah, bruce_anthony: Let’s get to the second part.

j__aundrea: all right,

bruce_anthony: Because you went on. I said I wanted to be on here for an hour and fifteen minutes. and you just keep going

bruce_anthony: on and on or you be talking j__aundrea: We haven’t even hit the thirty minute mark.

bruce_anthony: This. This show has got

j__aundrea: We have. bruce_anthony: to.

j__aundrea: We only have one other thing to talk about,

bruce_anthony: Yeah, you know that’s true.

j__aundrea: So this might be forty five minutes.

bruce_anthony: Maybe are you ready,

bruce_anthony: but you did really good. That was really good information.

j__aundrea: Thank you,

bruce_anthony: You’re welcome.

bruce_anthony: All right, Sis, you brought up, you brought up Ohio, and I sent you a story.

bruce_anthony: It’s the reason why you brought it up. So in Ohio, The Lawrence sisters who have started the school that’s

bruce_anthony: called the decadent hold on. it’s called the

j__aundrea: Decadent home school.

bruce_anthony: The dissident home school. So there,

bruce_anthony: two sisters that started a home school kind of system and they are also neonatsis, So they re literally teaching

bruce_anthony: races white supremacy

bruce_anthony: as a whole school coriculum.

j__aundrea: Hm, bruce_anthony: So they were

j__aundrea: once again, once again and again I’m speaking politically. We see you white women.

bruce_anthony: Well, I mean, obviously it’s gonna be white women right

bruce_anthony: with tea about white supremacy.

j__aundrea: Obviously it will be them.

bruce_anthony: I mean, that’s

j__aundrea: I mean, bruce_anthony: what I’m thinking

j__aundrea: I don’t think you’re wrong.

bruce_anthony: right right. So the Ohio, the Ohio school administration system and I’m messing at a hole up, But you know what I mean,

bruce_anthony: the Ohio

j__aundrea: Hm. bruce_anthony: education department, so

bruce_anthony: there’s literally nothing that they can do because they are fulfilling the requirements of home schooling with the

bruce_anthony: basic principles of the correculum. As far as you know, English, Mad Science, social

j__aundrea: Yeah, bruce_anthony: study is all that good stuff

j__aundrea: it’s just bruce_anthony: that

j__aundrea: an bruce_anthony: they.

j__aundrea: extra class

bruce_anthony: Well, I don’t

j__aundrea: of bruce_anthony: know if that’s an extra

j__aundrea: white bruce_anthony: class.

j__aundrea: supremacy one o one.

bruce_anthony: I don’t know if it’s an extra class Is just the thing like they’re not teaching.

bruce_anthony: If they’re teaching slavery, then they’re teaching like it was a good thing if

bruce_anthony: they’re not teaching civil rights. If they are teaching civil rights. it was this bad thing that happened civil

bruce_anthony: rights like, And they’re in doctrinating children

bruce_anthony: and it’s not. It’s not like a small thing in Ohio. It’s a group. It’s

bruce_anthony: a group of nionancis, Um, that that are teaching these kids. There’s nothing that the government can do.

bruce_anthony: Uh, there’s also this thing called the First Amendment and Freedom of speech, and a lot of people often get

bruce_anthony: that confused because they’re like they think Freedom of speech means that you can say whatever you want and

bruce_anthony: it does, Freedom of speech means that the government can’t shut down your speech. You

j__aundrea: Right, bruce_anthony: can get smacked in the mouth.

j__aundrea: you bruce_anthony: if you’re

j__aundrea: can, bruce_anthony: walking down the street for

j__aundrea: you bruce_anthony: saying

j__aundrea: can and you will.

bruce_anthony: Right, you can get fired for saying something

bruce_anthony: that’s not the government. The government can’t restrict your speech, So the government. there’s nothing that

bruce_anthony: the school system can do to shut this down. and in a way I hate it. I hate it, but in a way under the first Amendment,

bruce_anthony: they have a right to spew whatever hat that they want to spew and teach their kids whatever they want to teach

bruce_anthony: their kids, no matter how wrong it is. But for people that say Oh, this country is a races. Here’s another example

bruce_anthony: during Black history Month. Here’s another

bruce_anthony: example of. And it’s an offshoot of an American institution. Right. it’s an offshoot, but it’s a way. it’s it’s

bruce_anthony: schooling. So home schooling is still an offshoot of American institution that is building the next generation

bruce_anthony: of white supremise.

bruce_anthony: So I just thought that was really interesting in the fact that you can’t do anything, And that makes sense

bruce_anthony: you can Do anything. As long as they are fulfilling their requirements, they can teach their kids whatever they want

bruce_anthony: to teach their kids.

j__aundrea: Yeah, part of me is like I understand the feeling of saying well, they should start dictating what can be taught

j__aundrea: to children. But then

bruce_anthony: But j__aundrea: when

bruce_anthony: they j__aundrea: you

bruce_anthony: are doing j__aundrea: are

j__aundrea: having the, I mean, not that you can. Just when your home school your child, you can pick your curriculum and

j__aundrea: you can make it a white supremacist, um informed curriculum. Like that, No one’s saying you can do that you can,

j__aundrea: And that’s the problem, but also you don’t necessarily want the government deciding what’s what’s appropriate for children

j__aundrea: to learn.

bruce_anthony: But they are doing that. the government is absolutely deciding with appropriate. We see it in Florida. We see it in

bruce_anthony: other states as the banning so many books

j__aundrea: No, I mean bruce_anthony: there

j__aundrea: the bruce_anthony: being

j__aundrea: federal bruce_anthony: taught

j__aundrea: Gornmntno, bruce_anthony: in the public school. Huh,

j__aundrea: I, m n the federal government.

bruce_anthony: okay, yes,

j__aundrea: We don’t. bruce_anthony: yeah,

j__aundrea: We don’t want that kind of oversight. Um, I don’t

bruce_anthony: We j__aundrea: like.

j__aundrea: I don’t like when the state and local government s doing either. I don’t like what’s going on in Florida. I don’t

j__aundrea: like that there, straight up lying in that college board is actually actually re designed the African, you know,

j__aundrea: the African American history. A P course. I don’t don’t like that, I mean, but there’s It’s kind of like you don’t

j__aundrea: want them deciding, But at a certain extent, like some things, it should be universally understood that this is

j__aundrea: not okay, But then the fact that white supremacy and anti semitism and races of is alive and well within the halls

j__aundrea: of our government

bruce_anthony: True j__aundrea: within Congress itself.

j__aundrea: Um, it’s kind of hard to say what everybody considers to be right and okay for children to learn.

bruce_anthony: It’s just I mean, Education and children are such a tricky issue

bruce_anthony: because if you look at children when you start elementary school, kids don’t block themselves off.

bruce_anthony: They don’t segregate themselves. Kids just play with each other

bruce_anthony: based on interest

bruce_anthony: right like hey, I like to play baseball. I like to play baseball too Well, don’t know too many people like to

bruce_anthony: play baseball. But you get my general

j__aundrea: I get it.

bruce_anthony: just right. I like to play video games. I like to play video games, too. it doesn’t They. don’t kids, don’t

bruce_anthony: the young kids in Olmntryschool don’t see race.

j__aundrea: Yeah, bruce_anthony: They’re taught. they’re taught that,

bruce_anthony: or, or it’s something that they get from their parents at home and then they begin, But kids buying large. If

bruce_anthony: they’re not influence, y’re just gonna.

j__aundrea: They’re bruce_anthony: They’re the

j__aundrea: pure. bruce_anthony: purest form of honesty,

j__aundrea: They’re pure beings.

bruce_anthony: right? they’re

j__aundrea: Yes, bruce_anthony: the purest form of honesty. Really

bruce_anthony: like, kids are brutally honest That they’ll tell you. He thinks you don’t say that you don’t say

j__aundrea: Yeah, bruce_anthony: that in place City,

j__aundrea: why bruce_anthony: but

j__aundrea: your bruce_anthony: kids,

j__aundrea: stufach look like that?

j__aundrea: Wait a minute.

bruce_anthony: kids are, kids are honest and they’re the pure. They’re the purest form of

j__aundrea: Oh bruce_anthony: us because they’re not corrupted yet until

j__aundrea: yeah, bruce_anthony: we corrupt them,

bruce_anthony: And that tends to happen in middle school. You see some segregation, but by high school you absolutely see it.

bruce_anthony: These kids are already segregating themselves at a very young age.

bruce_anthony: They don’t even have a chance. That’s the thing that bothers me. They don’t have a chance to make a choice for

bruce_anthony: Maybe when Become adults, they’ll get the summer awakening. But American history, as ain’t based on no true story.

bruce_anthony: This j__aundrea: Yeah,

bruce_anthony: ain’t the movies

j__aundrea: no, bruce_anthony: right. Like

bruce_anthony: these people, these people are fed hate from the beginning. and if your force fed something over and over

bruce_anthony: and over again, you just tend to believe it.

bruce_anthony: so you believe that that’s the truth.

j__aundrea: But it’s hard

j__aundrea: to say you know because You teach your kids what you think is the right things for them to know. And if you believe

j__aundrea: in your heart that white people are the supreme race and that we we should be, they should be standing above

j__aundrea: others and things like that. If you truly believe that that is what is right and a lot of them godly

bruce_anthony: That’s my. If you, if

j__aundrea: Definite, bruce_anthony: you all

j__aundrea: legate, bruce_anthony: are,

bruce_anthony: If you all are listening to this. She just made a face.

bruce_anthony: If you all only listening to this, you all really need to go into Youtube channel and watch the video Feet, Because

bruce_anthony: the video is hilarious,

bruce_anthony: but just are facial expressions and me constantly talking with my hand. I’m talking with my hands right now. You

j__aundrea: Yeah, bruce_anthony: can’t see it,

bruce_anthony: if you. because, because you’re listening to the audio, but if he’s watching the video you can see Damn Bruce.

bruce_anthony: Be talking with his hands a lot. But anyway, yeah, you know you’re right. Those parents absolutely believe

j__aundrea: Yeah, so,

bruce_anthony: But they j__aundrea: just

j__aundrea: just in the way that I believe that these institutions are corrupted by white supremacy and that’s what I’m going to

j__aundrea: teach my children that they need to be advocates for themselves in a system that hates them but will

bruce_anthony: M. j__aundrea: simultaneously commodify them if they could.

j__aundrea: Right. because I believe that that’s what’s right. Not that I’m siding with. I see no nati. but I can understand.

j__aundrea: You know what I’m saying that if

j__aundrea: while I believe that this is the right thing, they believe that this is the right thing to teach their children,

j__aundrea: Know we’re not equal. We are better, and here are the reasons why we think that’s the case now. even though you

j__aundrea: know, just two eyeballs Should show you that if you

bruce_anthony: Not j__aundrea: put

bruce_anthony: even to

j__aundrea: La Bron bruce_anthony: one. All

j__aundrea: James bruce_anthony: you need is one.

j__aundrea: and stand La Bron James next to, I don’t know th name a white person.

bruce_anthony: I don’t understand where you’re going with this analogy.

j__aundrea: I’m trying to help you. I’m trying to make a point. If

bruce_anthony: Just j__aundrea: you

bruce_anthony: any white person or a white baskeall player.

j__aundrea: just any white person, it doesn’t matter.

bruce_anthony: James Woods.

j__aundrea: Yeah, if you put Labron James next to James Woods, who you like? Which guy is better than the other one? We don’t

j__aundrea: know. That’s the point.

bruce_anthony: Okay, I was.

j__aundrea: There was no way

bruce_anthony: that j__aundrea: to

bruce_anthony: was j__aundrea: really.

bruce_anthony: a real roundabout way of getting to your point. I was like

j__aundrea: But bruce_anthony: what you

j__aundrea: sometimes bruce_anthony: point your making here

j__aundrea: I need two eyeballs. If you watch what is the Detrellar Park Boys and then you see Nil de Grass, Tyson. Talk about astro

j__aundrea: physics. I don’t know how you say one is better than the other. I don’t know how you do that and

bruce_anthony: You just talking about. If you just putting them side by side and just

bruce_anthony: look at them without knowing any of her, without knowing that there, the Trailer park brothers, and and Nildegrash,

bruce_anthony: Tyson’s astrofisis, just standing side by side.

j__aundrea: Yeah, how do you like?

j__aundrea: Just use your eyeballs. Grab two random people off the street. one black one. How can you look and say this? This

j__aundrea: person is better than this other person Is. Really You can’t do that.

bruce_anthony: But you j__aundrea: So

bruce_anthony: know what they’re doing right. They’re taking examples like you’re going for face value. You’re saying you

bruce_anthony: put these two people. You don’t know anything about them. How can you say one is better than the other, but

bruce_anthony: that’s not what they’re doing. They’re

bruce_anthony: taking their distorted version of history and saying Well, Obviously we’re better than them.

j__aundrea: Okay. Well, then let’s put it like this. So it’s what. Twenty twenty three.

bruce_anthony: Yes, that’s what they say,

j__aundrea: That’s what they say at

j__aundrea: all right. bruce_anthony: you’re

j__aundrea: So bruce_anthony: doing. Map.

j__aundrea: in the last hundred and fifty eight years, since eighteen, sixty five,

j__aundrea: we have gone from being enslaved to the President of the United States

bruce_anthony: Yeah, that’s that’s what we did.

j__aundrea: in a hundred and fifty eight years. That’s what, Like two generations?

bruce_anthony: Hm. j__aundrea: Okay, Where? In what way?

bruce_anthony: Wait, man, did you say a hundred and fifty eight years, two

j__aundrea: O, bruce_anthony: generations. That is not two generations.

j__aundrea: Yeah, seventy nine.

bruce_anthony: That’s like three generations, maybe

j__aundrea: Well, bruce_anthony: four.

j__aundrea: it’s two seventy nine year old people living back to back.

bruce_anthony: Okay, I guess, if you want to put it that way,

j__aundrea: Yeah, bruce_anthony: I think it’s me all right

j__aundrea: I mean born five. You lived eight years. You probably had kid, your grand kids, and then somebody. maybe your grandchild

j__aundrea: was born and then, so as

bruce_anthony: Right so that’s multiple generations

j__aundrea: My point is,

j__aundrea: a lot of us have great grandparents. A lot of us have great grandparents that were enslaved.

j__aundrea: Great grandparents. I said,

bruce_anthony: I heard you said. I’m trying to do the math. I don’t because we knew our great great grandmother.

bruce_anthony: People in our family just happen to have children

j__aundrea: Children bruce_anthony: young

j__aundrea: very bruce_anthony: except

j__aundrea: young. bruce_anthony: for us.

bruce_anthony: But okay, Yes, I understand what you’re saying

j__aundrea: My bruce_anthony: like

j__aundrea: point is, it ain’t been that damn long. It’s

bruce_anthony: it j__aundrea: been

bruce_anthony: hasn’t been that long. Okay,

j__aundrea: eight years. we have. We have not even hit our second centennial of being free. Okay, we

bruce_anthony: Damn j__aundrea: have

bruce_anthony: it, j__aundrea: not.

bruce_anthony: that’s a really good point. So I, at my last episode I equated it because the argument that a lot of people

bruce_anthony: will give is that everything is equal now and I’m like, No, it’s not equal. Because if if me and you were on

bruce_anthony: a race track and we had to run four laps to get to a mile. If you got a three lap head start, there’s no way,

bruce_anthony: then I’m going to catch you,

bruce_anthony: And that’s essentially what Happened throughout the generations. You know, we were held back in that race, so

bruce_anthony: it doesn’t matter if you give us rights during certain generations. Yeah, we might close in on some of these

bruce_anthony: laps, j__aundrea: And we will do. we

bruce_anthony: but j__aundrea: will

bruce_anthony: it’s j__aundrea: do

bruce_anthony: going j__aundrea: that.

bruce_anthony: to take. It’s going to take multiple. multiple generations of two hundred years Still ain’t enough.

bruce_anthony: Two hundred years is still not enough When we were enslaved for how long?

j__aundrea: The six, sixteen, What sixteen? we first got on

bruce_anthony: No, I mean no, we got here in fourteen. Like no wind was the

j__aundrea: No bruce_anthony: first.

j__aundrea: Africa, sixteen hundred, early, sixteen and is like, sixteen, sixteen, sixteen, and something like that.

bruce_anthony: So we were in. I think we were slain for like two hundred and fifty years, or three hundred

j__aundrea: Yeah, bruce_anthony: years or something like that.

j__aundrea: Some. bruce_anthony: I think it was fifteen hundred.

j__aundrea: yeah, I don’t know. Somebody will correct us or

bruce_anthony: Somebody j__aundrea: will

bruce_anthony: will live and take something, and somebody absolutely will

j__aundrea: M bruce_anthony: use, Because

j__aundrea: sixteen, bruce_anthony: I be gitting

j__aundrea: sixteen, nineteen, twenty to thirty enslaved africans arrived at Port Comfort, Um in Hampton, Virginia,

bruce_anthony: So two hundred fifty years, two hundred fifty years, U. S. two hundred fifty years, So we still got a hundred

bruce_anthony: years ago before we even matched the amount of time that we were enslaved.

bruce_anthony: Get out of here

bruce_anthony: and on top of all that, on top of all of that is gonna take us another hundred years to even get close to being

bruce_anthony: caught up in the race, but we still keep getting tripped up, because there are generations out there teaching

bruce_anthony: their children white supremacy, so white supremacy will continue on. So even though we’re in that race and were

bruce_anthony: slowly but surely catching up, were constantly being tripped up by rocks or pebbles that are being thrown in

bruce_anthony: that Race track that are causing us to fall the slip, and we had to get back up a

bruce_anthony: tart and continue on with the race. It’s not a clean race, so that’s that’s the point that we’re bringing

bruce_anthony: this up, especially during Black history Month where I guarantee you that ain’t teach no black history, The

bruce_anthony: black history that should be taught.

bruce_anthony: So yeah, that’s that’s the whole reason why we’re bringing this up, and that’s the beauty and the devil of this

bruce_anthony: country, the beauty in the ugly, The devil, the beauty and the ugly in this country, we have a right to say and

bruce_anthony: teach what we want to say and teach.

bruce_anthony: But everybody has that right to say and teach what they want, O say and teach. And while there are people out

bruce_anthony: there that say hey, we want equality and equal for all, there’s a bunch of people out there saying no, we don’t.

bruce_anthony: We want all the power. We’re going to maintain all the power by storming the capital because we don’t The election.

j__aundrea: You ain’t told a lot yet,

bruce_anthony: I mean, I told some lies in my life, but not not what

j__aundrea: Not bruce_anthony: I was

j__aundrea: in bruce_anthony: just

j__aundrea: this bruce_anthony: saying.

j__aundrea: Not in a segment.

bruce_anthony: All right. Well, that’s all I got to Ben about on the day’s episode. Well, for those of you out there that are

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bruce_anthony: So that’s

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bruce_anthony: Well, I don’t know if all of them get taken down, but the majority,

j__aundrea: A vast majority

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bruce_anthony: the majority, so join the patroon page to get that we’re all real. J. I’m going to ask you like I always do.

j__aundrea: Hm. bruce_anthony: Ou’ve had time you talk

j__aundrea: Yeah, bruce_anthony: to friends.

bruce_anthony: What do you want to say to the people?

j__aundrea: I told you this month it’s going to be the same happy black history Mont.

bruce_anthony: And on that note I’ll hallo.